Sympathy with Greece is mostly misplaced

Published: June 26, 2011 - 00:00
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My Sunday readings included i.a. The New York Times, John Mauldin, The Daily Mail, and a lot of statistics by Eurostat, IMF and OECD. All the facts and hard data on Greece point to a country where citizens cheat their government, and where the government has been cheating Europe.

John Mauldin, the well-known US economist, writes in his weekly newsletter:

Europe would be better off just taking the money they are giving to Greece and using it to recapitalize their banks. Let Greece go. Give it up. Let them enter a 12-step program or whatever it is that insolvent nations do. That is harsh, but it is also the truth.

The Daily Mail has a big article on Greece, with striking examples of abuse, with the eyepopping title: "The Big Fat Greek Gravy Train: A special investigation into the EU-funded culture of greed, tax evasion and scandalous waste". Before you brand this as populist talk, most of these abuses were already highlighted in the Belgian TV-documentary of Panorama on Greece. The British tabloid might have an anti-EU and populist reputation, the facts mentioned in the article, cannot be refuted:

A striking example is the underground: air-conditioned, plasma screens, payed by Europe for the Olympics, and almost free, as people don't pay tickets and controls are non-existent. As the Daily Mail observes:

The transport perks are not confined to the customers. Incredibly, the average salary on Greece’s railways is £60,000, which includes cleaners and track workers - treble the earnings of the average private sector employee here.

But Greek derailments are all around:

The overground rail network is as big a racket as the EU-funded underground. While its annual income is only £80 million from ticket sales, the wage bill is more than £500m a year — prompting one Greek politician to famously remark that it would be cheaper to put all the commuters into private taxis.

'We have a railroad company which is bankrupt beyond comprehension,’ says Stefans Manos, a former Greek finance minister. ‘And yet, there isn’t a single private company in Greece with that kind of average pay.’

Tax abuses are a national sport in Greece. The go from hiding swimming pools (there are virtually no controls) to hiding millions of revenues. Greece does not seem to bother to collect its taxes properly:

One of the reasons they are so rich is that rather than paying millions in tax to the Greek state, as they rightfully should, many of these residents are living entirely tax-free.

Along street after street of opulent mansions and villas, surrounded by high walls and with their own pools, most of the millionaires living here are, officially, virtually paupers.

How so? Simple: they are allowed to state their own earnings for tax purposes, figures which are rarely challenged. And rich Greeks take full advantage.

Astonishingly, only 5,000 people in a country of 12 million admit to earning more than £90,000 a year — a salary that would not be enough to buy a garden shed in Kifissia.

Yet studies have shown that more than 60,000 Greek homes each have investments worth more than £1m, let alone unknown quantities in overseas banks, prompting one economist to describe Greece as a ‘poor country full of rich people’

And still a lot of politicians in the eurozone try to capitalize on sympathy for the Greeks to convince their citizens that a new bailout package is justified. It is unclear whether this is the real motivation however.

One year ago, a huge European bailout fund was raised, with the help of the IMF. Politicians sold this to their parliaments and population, as not being a gift, but rather a highly yielding investment. In other words: it would return a gain, or at least a yearly income, for their own national budgets. One year later, they are confronted with potentially high losses, in case of a default.

In my opinion, it is not so much sympathy for the Greeks, than fear for heavy losses, that motivated politicians to beg so urgently for more support for new bailouts. I agree that the banking sector would be hurt by a bailout. But European banks have already transferred most of their Greek government debt to the ECB/EFSF/IMF. Furthermore, not all banks have been investing in more risky Club-Med debt. It seems that the reckless financial institutions were often the same as the ones involved in the subprime-crisis.

But unfortunately, European citizens are not convinced about the sustainability of the Greek bailout. And worse, in a lot of countries confidence in the whole euro-project is decreasing. Today a poll in Germany showed a worrying decline in confidence in Greece and the euro.

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Sympathy is not a good basis for a sustainable monetary and budgetary European policy. But if it would be justified, you could take it into account. In the case of Greece, evidence shows that Greece has been abusing its own system, and the EU.

Throwing more bailout money to Greece, will therefore only buy some time. In the meanwhile, tax payers in Europe are bailing out banks that have taken too much risk. They are also compensating for the fact that few Greeks are willing to pay their fare share of the taxes. Sympathy for the Greeks is therefore mostly misplaced.

Sympathy and respect for the fair tax payer in the rest of Europe should weigh as much in the bailout decision. Their tax efforts should not be wasted in bottomless money pits, but be used with care.

Important closing remark: sympathy with the banks is even more misplaced.

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14 Comments

  1. Theo 

    On 26 Jun, 2011

    It is very hard to feel any sympathy with the Greeks.

    They themselves are saying publicly that they would never be able to resolve the current crisis unless drastic measures are taken, measures which current IMF, ECB and EU IV systems are not allowing them to take.
    Those with brains see the solution in a drastic overhaul of the state - they take Bulgaria as example and what it did in 1997 - fire 90% of the administration and keep only 100,000 people which should be enough for a population of 11 million.
    The Greek Parliament currently consists of 300 members, which employ 6000 people! All of them get 16 salaries per year!!! The lowest of which, even after recent cuts, is euro 3,500
    Another shocker: the EU paid for all the Olympics facilities and donated them to the Greek state. Currently state assets are going to be sold... including the Olympics facilities!!! I would like to know how much is the EU offering to buy them back for now under the Privatisation plan

    I find it also hypocritical of the Americans to be giving any big lessons to the Greeks, given the fact that they are entirely responsible for the state of the politics and economy of Greece for the past 100 years and longer.

  2. incognito 

    On 26 Jun, 2011

    I'm afraid this is a bit besides the point. We don't bail out Greece out of sympathy with Greece, nor should we bail it out out of sympathy with that quasi-failed state (baptised in the year ... 1830...), otherwise we would have bailed out Iceland too. We bail out Greece because we fear that a default would harm the financial system (and not only the European financial system: American banks would also be hit, through exposure to Greek bonds and through the cds market). Confer lehman brothers.

    And second we shouldn't forget that Greece is our California. It's only the weakest link. The canary in the coal mine. Frankly, I don't see how Western countries (including countries like France, the US and maybe even Germany) can, in the medium to long term, stay afloat if we try to prolong the inflationary credit boom without making use of massive quantitative easing. I.e., further opening a brand new tap to flood our economies with money, because the old tap, called the reserve commercial banking system, is running dry (is going japanese): http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/TOTBKCR

    1. Theo 

      On 27 Jun, 2011

      The blog post above starts very clearly with suggesting that it might be more efficient to simply use all that money to recapitalise the banks instead of this entire comedy we are being dished out for a whole year!

      Further, the real reason why Belgium is so keen to show its "Solidatiry" with Greece is entirely political and not economic: the ruling PS cast refuses to let another Socialist party in Europe to publicly declare that it has failed to give its people the Socialist Paradise it has promised them.
      Imagine people in the Belgian Promised Paradise then starting to ask a lot of questions... and God forbid, the PS having to actually implement what it so fanatically calls "right wing" and "ultra liberal" recommendations from the EU Commission
      1. incognito 

        On 27 Jun, 2011

        Yes, but Geert seems to assume that our policy towards Greece is inspired by sympathy (concluding remarks). If it were inspired by sympathy, we would urge the Greeks to default (in a soft and controlled way) and leave the EMU. Quod non. That would release all kinds of genies out of the (EMU and maybe even EU ánd financial system) bottle. Or so they think. European authorities (and the banksters) fear those genies, they don't care about the Greeks. But fear is, as we all know, a bad advisor. Far worse than sympathy.

        1. Theo 

          On 27 Jun, 2011

          I confess English is only my 6th language, but I don't have the same reading as you on the subject of the use of "sympathy" in the blog post.
          To me it is simply a reference to all the politicians bombarding us day in and day out with the need to show "Solidarity" with the Greeks.
          In that sense, the conclusion of the blog post is correct and in line with the starting quote from John Mauldin.

          It seems you are the one who is assuming that the alternative to not throwing money at the Greek government in a sign of our "sympathy" with the Greek people, is a systemic eurozone chaos a la Lehman Brothers.
          In reality nothing could be further from the truth. And again, you didn't come to this conclusion all by yourself, because it has been planted in the press by our politicians. This is what they want you to think. Or how else are they going to extract your money in order to cover up their previous bad decisions.
  3. incognito 

    On 26 Jun, 2011

    Mauldin is of course right, but the problem is that the EMU project didn't foresee a plan B. So European leaders stick to plan A (a dead end). Also because they follow the IMF and OECD in their rosy projections of economic growth.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/8599634/George-Soros-says-it-is-probably-inevitable-a-country-will-leave-euro.html

    Mr Soros reiterated his view in a panel discussion in Vienna that the euro had a basic flaw from the start in that the currency was not backed by political union or a joint treasury.

    "The euro had no provision for correction. There was no arrangement for any country leaving the euro, which in the current circumstances is probably inevitable," he said.

    ...

    "Let's face it: we are on the verge of an economic collapse which starts, let's say, in Greece but could easily spread. The financial system remains extremely vulnerable...

    "We are on the edge of collapse and that is the time to recognise the need for change."
  4. (n)iemand 

    On 26 Jun, 2011

    Wat er gebeurt, is tijd winnen. Tijd winnen om wankele dominosteentjes Ierland, Portugal, Spanje,.. recht te houden. Daarna zullen de Grieken uit de euro gaan en komt er een schuldherschikking. En passant dumpen de grootbanken de schulden via de ECB bij de belastingsbetaler. Strafst van al is dat heel wat Grieken hier een goede zaak zullen doen... van de ene dag op de andere schiet hun binnelandse koopkracht met factor 5 omhoog dankzij hun eurootjes die in Duitsland geparkeerd staan. We flushen elk kwartaal miljarden door, nog geen dag blijft dat geld in het land. De dag erop is het elders in de eurozone geplaatst?

    Wat metro en niet betalen betreft... Brussel doet hier niet voor onder. Bevolking aldaar lijkt me "Griekse" mentaliteit te hebben. Benieuwd hoelang de nieuwe klappoortjes zullen werken.
    1. Theo 

      On 27 Jun, 2011

      The money we give goes straight out of Greece and into Greek banks in Central and Eastern Europe, under the disguise of the Vienna agreement. Which is why I find the Vienna Plus idea so hilarious!

      In Bulgaria the business press is full with articles from Greeks now living and working in Bulgaria who call upon their Greek government to take drastic measures and stop taking money from the IMF and EU on the back of the Greek taxpayers.

      Greece has a current debt level of 157% of its GDP.
      After all the cuts and privatisation plans and what not... it is currently estimated that the entire operation will reduce the debt level to only 140% of GDP by 20016.
      This is a totally useless exercise.
  5. incognito 

    On 27 Jun, 2011

    Yes, it is or can be interpreted as a reaction against the calls for 'sympathy' with the Greeks. But he presents this call, in the concluding remarks, as if it were the real reason for our financial support and then proceeds to point out that this is not a good reason: 'Sympathy is not a good basis for a sustainable monetary and budgetary European policy.' Hence my reaction.

    My point is that it is nót the real reason for the second package of financial support that the European authorities offer to Greece. The real reason is that the authorities fear the Greek genie (for all kinds of reasons, including losses on the first package).

    As we all know of course. Geert included: "In my opinion, it is not so much sympathy for the Greeks, than fear for heavy losses, that motivated politicians to beg so urgently for more support for new bailouts".
    1. incognito 

      On 27 Jun, 2011

      @Theo:
      So, you can criticize my reaction for not taking into account this sentence or criticize the article for being not entirely consistent. It first implicitly points out that sympathy is not the real reason for the recent bail out but then assumes, in the concluding remarks, that it is the real reason (without presenting this assumption as a fictional premise).

      Now that I'm at it: he also relativises, in the article, the danger for the banks: "But European banks have already transferred most of their Greek government debt to the ECB/EFSF/IMF. Furthermore, not all banks have been investing in more risky Club-Med debt." It's rather the investment of the governments which is at stake (first bail out).

      But in the concluding remarks he only refers to the possible losses of the banks: "Throwing more bailout money to Greece, will therefore only buy some time. In the meanwhile, tax payers in Europe are bailing out banks that have taken too much risk."
  6. Jan P 

    On 27 Jun, 2011

    In grote lijnen ben ik het natuurlijk eens met de stelling dat Griekenland niet te veel medeleven verdient.

    Toch een opmerking: In het algemeen (en ook hier) wordt er te veel uit gegaan van uit de vanzelfsprekendheid waarmee regeringen stevige belastingen mogen innen. M.a.w. de hoogte en de noodzaak en zelfs legitimiteit van belastingen wordt niet meer in vraag gesteld. De toon in het artikel stelt dat de Grieken te weinig belasting hebben betaald. De toon gaat net iets te veel voorbij aan de vraag of het niet eerder de Griekse overheid is die te veel heeft uitgegeven? Dat is niet hetzelfde, en de straatprotesten zijn dus ook begrijpelijker.

    Ook in Belgie stelt zich die vraag (en is dat het fundamentele verschil tussen NVA en de PS). Als zelfstandige betaal ik jaarlijks enorme sommen belasting. Het is meer dan 50% van de welvaart die ik creer. Toch wordt er steeds verteld dat Belgie boven zijn stand leeft. En toch zou ook ik stilaan op straat komen als extra bezuinigingen weer neerkomen op meer uitgaven en nog meer belastingen...

  7. Theo 

    On 27 Jun, 2011

    I wasn't criticising you, I only explained my reading of it, which obviously differs from yours on the entire post. It is not relativism to state the facts! The ECB has taken on its books the Greek debt - why the ECB had to be recapitalised recently. The smokescreen plan put in place last year was never going to be enough as it never really fooled anybody. Let's not forget that we bailed out the banks already prior to the Big Fat Greek Drama and with those funds they went and bought more Greek debt in order to pay back the interests for the bail out... All it means is that when we bail them out now, by default they would have to look for investments with even higher returns than the Greek Bonds... which by definition are even more risky! When and how does this end??
  8. On 28 Jun, 2011

    De meeste Grieken hebben zelf geen vertrouwen meer in de Euro noch hun of de banken en kopen koortsachtig alles wat blinkt en wantrouwen papier... Misschien geen slecht idee want een devaluatie van de Euro is mogelijk en zou veeel problemen zeer snel kunnen oplossen.Zelfs in Belgie komen Grieken toe om blinkblink te kopen aan lagere prijs dan in hun eigen land.Ni vu ni connu lachen ze en gaan dan eens smakelijk eten bij Peter.
  9. mon 

    On 29 Jun, 2011

    Beetje kort door de bocht hoor. Alsof er alleen maar Grieken bestaan die in villa's met zwembaden leven en de fiscus massaal oplichten. Meer dan 60,000 huizen met investeringen +1 miljoen Pond zijn een argument om +11miljoen Grieken die hier niets mee te maken hebben, verdacht te maken. Die pippo's met hun zwembaden of bankrekeningen in Duitsland zullen niet op de blaren moeten zitten.

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