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Some thoughts on a German Sovereign Wealth Fund
Over the past couple weeks - in facts months - we have been blogging on the future of the euro-zone and on the economic and political rationale behind recent developments. And the response in the sequential blog debates was rich and interesting to say the least, looked upon from all various angles and for which I would like to thank my faithful little audience. Today, an opinion article appeared in the FT by Daniel Gros (Director CEPS) and Thomas Mayer (Deutsche bank) - "Eurozone needs a German sovereign wealth fund" - based upon their voxeu contribution which can found through the following link :
http://www.voxeu.org/article/german-sovereign-wealth-fund-save-euro
Now I think the article deserves some attention, not because one is pro or counter the idea, but because of other reasons. Daniel Gros for example has been critical in the past upon various solutions put forward to save the euro-zone. But in this article, it goes further than the mere tackling of ponzi schemes or other kicking the can down the road lines of thinking.
The key central point of the authors is that the current eurosystem of intermediation is inefficient, not in the least for Germany for that matter. When the single currency kicked off - eliminating intra-european exchange rate risk - Germans were able to invest their excess savings into euro-denominated assets. The German surplus became structural at 6% of GDP, almost 25% of total domestic savings. But now the appetite of the German investor for EMU government bond assets has waned substantially. And a first problem raised by the authors is that German savings are intermediated by banks which cannot take exchange rate risk (or very limited). So they are tied up as well within the EMU framework.
So to avoid a total collapse, the public authorities came to the intermediation rescue through the Eurosystem channel (central banks and Target2). The problem however here is that the Target imbalances more and more reflect the current account problems between core and periphery, that capital flight from out of periphery banks banks etc. And the total imbalances have become quite large, as presented by the graph taken out of the voxeu study, with Germany in the plus for over 700 bio EUR and Spain the largest in the red for some 400 bio EUR :

Now concerning the inefficiencies, Gros sums them up as follows
1) Target2 claims represent a portfolio concentrated both geographically and across asset classes. And let's not go too deep into the collateral delivered for fr various ECB credits.
2) The ECB currently offers German banks a 0% interest rate (negative real return). At the same time, it only demands 0,75% on its lending towards EMU banks which is insufficient to cover the risk of ECB operations. And finally, the ECB - to some extend equal to German banks - is unable to offer longer term investment opportunities towards German savers. So the authors come up with the following proposition : "Imagine a government agency offering German savers a secure vehicle, guaranteeing a positive real interest rate, including assets outside of the euro-zone"
Before giving a headstart to the discussion, note that for the Norway pension fund, the negative real interest rate situation has also appeared with Norway's sovereign yield curve being 1% on the short end and 2% on the long end. The authors are fair enough to admit the following consequences of their proposition :
"One might object that this is a mercantilist view which basically transfers the burden of the euro problems to the rest of the world (investment out of the euro-zone weakening the currency). But may be one has to choose for the lesser evil : either a strong euro combined with ever increasing internal tensions or a weaker euro without these tensions. In addition, the weaker currency might help strong deficit countries to revive their export growth outlook and hence GDP outlook"
So the question remains whether these arguments and propositions are a track to follow, either for the greater political good, the benefit for an investor being able to escape ground zero rate land or which other reason one can come up with. Or is it just an episode in the global saga of currency wars ? The floor is yours and feel free to add more arguments for the sake of an open debate.
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Nacht Und Nebel
On 29 Aug, 2012
One might object that this is a mercantilist view which basically transfers the burden of the euro problems to the rest of the world (investment out of the euro-zone weakening the currency). But may be one has to choose for the lesser evil : either a strong euro combined with ever increasing internal tensions or a weaker euro without these tensions. In addition, the weaker currency might help strong deficit countries to revive their export growth outlook and hence GDP outlook
So if the euro is worth 0 dollar then Europe would not create problems to the rest of the world.You can say that again.
But the truth is those weaker euro fanatics wants a very good inflation so the debts goes to zeo
But Germany wants a strong euro and low inflation.So sorry PIIGS you can your way out of this.
But I like the plan first you give the poor bastard zero rates for about 30 years then you make your currency go to near zero.His pension isn't worth a thing and the government gets two flies in one stroke.:)
This plan is so Gross -
christof Govaerts
On 29 Aug, 2012
@NuN
Well at least Gross admits this up front. No matter from which angle you look towards this, something has to go. And by the way, it's not always a battle of "Germany against the rest of Europe". The latest business cycle indicators clearly show that Germany is also suffering from this crisis. Just check the "convergence" taking place and the reason why Frau Merkel might be thinking twice about an exit
http://soberlook.com/2012/08/german-economy-converging-with-eurozones.html-
Nacht Und Nebel
On 29 Aug, 2012
Christof,
I know that.It is not Germany against the rest but it also not Germany pays for all the rest.
And indeed Germany America,Japan China and South Korea are suffering because the "free lunch' coupons are all gone.But then again Germany can do the right thing in the meanwhile and act for the greater good of every german and that is what a government should do at the end of the day.
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Nacht Und Nebel
On 29 Aug, 2012
If you want a real German Sovereign Wealth Fund with good intent you invest in German Companies.first the bigger ones to anchor them and then the smaller ones and start up's with the dividens of those .Big German Companies Dividends that are on average 150 percent Higher now then these Ponzi bonds!
But companies can go belly up.Yes,but not as fast as a european country:)
But nobody wants to buy our ponzi bonds anymore.Well make the euro go up and correct the problem.Stop spending all your money on civil servants.
This again is not for the greater good of germany but for the PIGS who wants a very EZ way out.-
christof Govaerts
On 29 Aug, 2012
@NuN
I agree on this one but that's a different story, it's about asset allocation and whether to invest in bonds or equity, be it a German or another international company based upon relative (dividend) yield. Now let's have a look at our Norwegian friends today : they refreined from lowering interest rates, a brave decision indeed. Because immediately their currency wiped out the losses incurred since this morning with every one expecting a rate cut because of the strong currency.
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Kris Van der Plas
On 29 Aug, 2012
Reminds me of the old joke on the difference between civil and industrial engineers (in Belgium - this was before the Mast /bachelor days) when faced with a burning chair in a room with a fire extinguisher. The industrial engineer takes the extinguisher and puts down the fire, the civil engineer picks up the burning chair and puts it outside the room...
I know the analogy is not complete as we seem to be missing in Europe an industrial engineer smart enough to use a fire extinguisher.
So Gross wants to export the problem. Interesting proposal though (and for those wondering I'm an industrial engineer ;-)-
christof Govaerts
On 29 Aug, 2012
@Kris
And a clever engineer indeed. I think the metaphore is actually well chosen. But I repeat, in this debate, something has to go or various things have to go and meet each other half way. The problem when using the fire extinguiser right now is a problem indeed, to the extend that when you use it, you don't know what will be left in the room-
Kris Van der Plas
On 29 Aug, 2012
Yes I agree, something has to give. The 1 € question is:what and when.
As you Christof I am a keen reader. During my holidays I read 'the edgeof chaos', which deals with the thrilling developments late 80s early 90s at the santa fe institute. In the edge of chaos we learn how life develops into ever more complexity floating on the edge of chaos helped by darwins survival of the fittest. You probably are familar with all of his. I can't help wondering though... are we now in a state of chaos ie there is no evolution possible... We don't want to go to a rigid centrally planned economy either as also there evolution and thus life can not thrive. We need toposition ourselves at the edge of chaos ie with more financial control than today. The challenge is that these state changes do not happen slowly, but suddenly (this is in line withthe concept of history jumping cfr taleb et al). On another area, I have this creapy feeling that our climate is going to teach us the same lesson. As for the 'clever', thank you but too many flowers.
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Nacht Und Nebel
On 29 Aug, 2012
Kriss,
No kris,it is even worse. my friend.Gross wants to import the problem.His plan is to burn every german alive so they can't complain later that the chair has burned up :)
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Nacht Und Nebel
On 29 Aug, 2012
Christof,
I cannot understand why Thomas Meyer can come up with such a plan.Healthy Banks live and breath by the difference between short term interest rates and long term interest rates.This plan is crazy because every bank in Europe will face very big problems unless you are a bank who invested in long term governmental PIGS bunds.
Oh my God Deutsche Banks Has done just that.............
The Greater good of Beutsche Bank wiil be served -
christof Govaerts
On 29 Aug, 2012
@NuN
Hold your horses here NuN ; Thomas Mayer - whether you agree with this article or not - is not a stupid macro economist. I appreciated him when a couple of years ago he destroyed the concept of "idle" capacity in the economy and the fact that virtually all economists misread this in the seventies : idle capacity is a dangerous macro concept and in fact frequently an "idle" concept. His argument was that in the seventies a lot of capacity went idle after the oil shock and observes watched capacity utilization going down from 85% to less than 70% ; so no inflation danger than, we can go full speed ahead. The problem however was that the economy was in fact operating close to full capacity after things were shut down because they were shut down for good. Hence stagflation and the wrong macro remedies merely based upon so called idle capacity and under-utilization. He did the same exercise with the subprime crisis, warning that undercapacity in the real estate sector is an "idle" concept. It's idle for good-
Nacht Und Nebel
On 29 Aug, 2012
How does Deutsche Bank’s “sky-high” leverage ratio relate to the sovereign debt crisis and the bank’s PIIGS exposure? (Deutsche reported net PIIGS exposures of 3.6 billion Euro). Simon Johnson, former IMF economist and author of the Baseline Scenario, writes: “Big banks have huge debts relative to their equity – Deutsche Bank, for example, has a leverage ratio (assets divided by shareholder equity) around 35 times. Even small losses on sovereign debt in Europe could wipe out shareholder equity – the capital – of those banks.”
Thomas is very smart man to even come up with this kind of plan :)
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Nacht Und Nebel
On 29 Aug, 2012
Christof,
Why is Germany the only country in Europe that didn't had a real estate bubble until now?Most analist are in favor to spend all the free money in German real estate
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/german-real-estate-market-soars-amid-euro-crisis-a-838437.html
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Nacht Und Nebel
On 29 Aug, 2012
I am never dissapoited in somebody.I always thinks the worst of somebody.In most cases they turn out to be better then what I thought of them and that is a very good thing:)
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christof Govaerts
On 29 Aug, 2012
@NuN
Your point on the absence of a bubble in the German real estate market is a good point indeed and for which I have no answer. Also, the Italian real estate market did not experience a bubble comparable to Ireland/Spain. But I explained this by the wrong interest rate policy in 2003-2006 when these countries were already firing on all cylinders while even Italian inflation was low to historic standards. On your exposure issue of German banks towards GIIPS bonds : why do you think that when the crisis first exploded in April 2010 (first greek aid package) that nobody talked about kicking the greeks out or let them default ? Exactly, French and German banks - who made money by the way in feeding the Greek and Spanish banks - had to be sheltered and one had to buy time to cover their asses. -
Nacht Und Nebel
On 29 Aug, 2012
Cant you see Christof.They want YOU out.You are in their way.After all you are the middleman.The last person able to give us a fairer interest rate.With you gone they can keep zero rates forever and ever and nobody will be able to do anything about it.No need for Mr Market thus no need for a strong euro.
We make everbody to go broke but the the machine keeps turning.That is the real thought behind this kind of plan. -
christof Govaerts
On 29 Aug, 2012
@NuN
Well that I can understand but I don't have to buy bonds @ zero%, no do I ? And suppose I would have bought a bunga bunga @ 6 or 7% and Mario and the 40 robbers now decide that it should go to 4 or 3%, I can always buy something else. I understand what they want, they want us to spend and take risk. And you, I and others are free to go along with this or not. Remember our recent blog discussions on creative destruction and "free" markets -)-
Nacht Und Nebel
On 29 Aug, 2012
you my friend could even design aeroplains for a living and I would feel save when I fly in one of them :)
And I know that you have bought bunga bunga bonds:) but we end up in a japanese hostage situation here if they can pull this off :)
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Nacht Und Nebel
On 29 Aug, 2012
Christof,
You are extremely smart but you have a little fault.You have to much faith in the 'goodness of man' but that is why I love you so much :) I wish I wasn't as bitter but every proposal is a egoistic one.
If I am for a stronger euro that is mainly because I need a stronger euro to escape this country.
Yep,even me :) -
christof Govaerts
On 29 Aug, 2012
NuN
Aha, even mister Nacht Und Nebel has a darker opportunistic side, I love it when so much honesty is brought out in the open !! As for the naive me - admit I do have a considerable "aaibaarheidsfactor" - I carry on in believing in the goodness of man, except when it comes to my own private portfolio, speaks for itself :) -
Nacht Und Nebel
On 29 Aug, 2012
Only the really smart can afford to be naive.;)
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christof Govaerts
On 29 Aug, 2012
There is a nice conversation in the epic theatre play "Caligula" from Albert Camus :
Caligula : "Hélicon, mes idées, qu'est ce que tu en penses ?"
Hélicon : "Gaius, je suis désolé, mais je ne pense jamais, je suis bien trop intelligent pour ça"
Cheers :)
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Theo
On 29 Aug, 2012
At least nobody is going around telling the Germans they should call it The EZ Wealth Fund....
You can wrap it up as you wish, but this is all about the German government safeguarding the German people's monies... less to do with the euro.
The Buba already announced it is taking the reserves to Asia. Establishing a Sovereign Wealth Fund is a good strategy.
At least, that's the memo I'm getting from this
Turkey just changed their status to "Happy Single and never joining the Single Market" on its EU fan page ( Turkey follows Germany ! )-
christof Govaerts
On 29 Aug, 2012
@Theo
All roads lead to Rome, and like you said before, wrap it up in any paper you like, it still the same but at least it looks different. Like the recent Buba story and my interpretation of things, it's like selling a lollypop and "you really should try it, this one is different and even very beneficial to you as well". It might give us that impression although I think both authors are genuine in their intention. On the other hand, like NuN just said, I can act naively from time to time...-
Nacht Und Nebel
On 29 Aug, 2012
Don't worry about it,Christof,we both can win the Tour de France,you on talent and I,a sick bastard like Armstrong,on dope :)
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Christof
On 29 Aug, 2012
I mean @ NuN doep wise. I smell mushrooms and all kind of cakes !
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FV
On 29 Aug, 2012
as to the special measures Draghi has announced for the beginning of september, could that be -instead of the expected bazooka- currency controls ?!? Or is that a bridge too far ?
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Christof
On 29 Aug, 2012
@FV
No, the bazooka i don't think so. Bazooka wise it could entail even lower rates but most likely some details about desired yields and spreads. The fact it was published today in Die Zeit is merely to warm up our eastern neighbours, they shouldn't worry -)
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Nacht Und Nebel
On 29 Aug, 2012
That never works FV,they tried that before.But not a bad idea because CB's tried that in the past.Remember,this is not about the battle for the strongest currency but the battle for the weakest currency.
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Nacht Und Nebel
On 29 Aug, 2012
i am getting pretty good at this.I smoke some mushrooms and then I have visions that other ones calculate for me
De Belgische overheid telde 4 miljard euro neer om Dexia Bank België (nu Belfius) uit de Belgisch-Franse groep te lichten. Bovendien draagt België 60 procent van de staatswaarborgen die de drie staten toekenden aan de schulden die Dexia aangaat om zich te financieren. Die hebben betrekking op maximaal 55 miljard euro, maar dat zou in de toekomst uitgebreid worden tot 90 miljard euro.
Credit Suisse heeft berekend hoe zwaar het Dexia-risico weegt op de overheidsfinanciën van België. Analist Michelle Bradley berekende dat de Belgische belastingbetaler voor 72,5 miljard blootgesteld is aan de bankgroep die vorig jaar ontmanteld werd.
I think it is a very good idea this German Sovereign Wealth Fund it might even safe Belgium :) -
Theo
On 29 Aug, 2012
@ Christof & NuN
I confess I'm dope naive... Not very wise, I know o.O
I should start drinking Antwerp tap water
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_cHvtPB2dY&feature=related-
Nacht Und Nebel
On 29 Aug, 2012
Theo,
http://www.tijd.be/opinie/analyse/Belgie_glijdt_stilaan_af_naar_een_fiscale_politiestaat.9235486-2336.art
I prefer water of love :)
http://youtu.be/Erg4DPUMyIU
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Nacht Und Nebel
On 30 Aug, 2012
Ok,you are back on.For awhile I was very worried I thought that you had been raided by Fuhrer Steven's Fiscal Storm Troops and Christof was tortured and sended to Stalag RV :)
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christof Govaerts
On 30 Aug, 2012
@NuN
I am tortured all right but not by Helga or Ilsa (you know, the she wolf of...) -
Nacht Und Nebel
On 30 Aug, 2012
You still sound a little elio-nated .What have they done to you?
http://youtu.be/9UbqZ_oN5do -
christof Govaerts
On 30 Aug, 2012
@NuN
Ever since I got back from Italy, I got brainwashed and have been agonized by an irresistible temptation for bunga bunga bonds. It's too hard to fight I am afraid :-) -
Nacht Und Nebel
On 30 Aug, 2012
Do not gloat :) I have some inside info.Operation Gluttt II is coming to town :)
And forget the song One for you one for me.It will be Steven's tax collector takes it all. -
Nacht Und Nebel
On 30 Aug, 2012
Operation Even Steven they will call Glutt II :)
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Theo
On 30 Aug, 2012
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the economic thinking behind the EZ that Europe would be able to invest its its savings and profits into other European countries which in the beginning did not have savings, but would be able to lift their economies... blah blah blah...
It took just 5 years to end up in a big mess and now the Germans are taking their savings and their profits to Asia where they have found like minded fiscally prudent governments and similar hard working and thrift loving people
Also wasn't the whole EUR project presented to the masses as a win-win because it eliminates currency risk?
And now these guys are saying that currency risk is necessary and that you should never have invested your savings and your profits in another EZ country... Which basically means that the EZ should never have been created.
Thus I'm sorry I fail to see how this proposal is about saving the euro... Perhaps I haven't had enough Antwerp tap water yet. -
christof Govaerts
On 30 Aug, 2012
@Theo
A lot of your arguments make sense, including the marketing stories which were given in those days to sell the project. It's not that they say "currency risk is necessary", they say "you should be allowed to diversify the portfolio into other currencies" for the sake of investment optimization and bad risk/reward at home. Now this is of course also another way of expressing your intentions of currency wars and debasement. So strictly speaking, it doesn't save the "value" of the euro, but it might be an instrument to save the "concept under construction"
















