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A note on Munchau and QE - unintended consequences

Today Wolfgang Munchau in the FT focuses on QE European style and why an Anglo-saxon style QE would be to be preferred. Now I would like to focus on the first part because Munchau has a very good point here, something which we recently have stressed and focused upon in another framework, cfr
http://www.econoshock.be/ay-caramba-lost-in-translation
http://www.econoshock.be/growth-pact-france-chile-sweden
Munchau tackles the conditionality of the OMT (Outright Monetary Transactions) of the ECB, in other words buying up the sovereign bonds of countries in trouble subject to strict guidelines . He refers to an EU official even openly admitting the following : "May be nobody will apply and the ECB may never have to buy a single bond. If market sentiment is sufficiently positive, things might resolve themselves". This is a bit the Kayser Soze argument , the potential threat of a short squeeze when it comes to mega hedge fund positions. But the thing is : how credible is this threat ?
Munchau goes further :
"So do they really want to make the OMT look like a cheap trick ? I do not believe this was ever Mr Draghi's intention but if you link an ECB bond purchasing program to a political process, this may be the unintended consequence" And Munchau adds : "The main lesson I have drawn over the past of years is that you can never overestimate the complacency of European policy makers (!!). This notion of a self-fulfilling prophecy (without having to do anything at all) reminds me of what happened after the ECB started its liquidity program last year. That too was followed by a slowdown in political decision making. I had expected the same to happen with OMT but not quite so fast...."
So Spain has already made it clear it doesn't need help to avoid conditionality and Troika monitoring while various elections across Europe do not simplify matters. On the other hand, Mario Draghi cannot force governments to act.
And suppose for the sake of argument, it happens that for example Rahoy, Monti or whoever asks for a bail-out, subject to some harsh conditions. What are their odds of getting re-elected because that's what basically at stake here. What will happen when a new government kicks in based upon electoral promises to turn around certain decisions ? Just have a look at what has been happening over in Greece since May, no further comment required. Forget the higher ground and salvation at supra-national level, it's back to domestic issues and "politics around the church tower".
So the big ECB bazooka meeting of 06/09/12 could very well turn out to be 0% effective if we muddle through. It's a special kind of stalemate position where 1 player can't move and the other player won't move, like in chess a very frustrating result at the end of the game.
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Nacht Und Nebel
On 17 Sep, 2012
Yep,Polictians can't make an economical revival to happen but they sure can break one.
I am lost for words again when at same moment I see this
http://blogs.tijd.be/bbb/2012/09/een-gouden-kans-op-revival-van-aandelen.html
Yes,let's talk about the benefits of a capital gains tax and other taxes for an economic revival:(
Some Blues,maestro :)
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Nacht Und Nebel
On 17 Sep, 2012
One of the many simple rules of stock investing.Look for the possibility of an interest cut.Rather hard to do when interest rates are on ground zero right now.Unless we start to write a new chapter real negative interest rates.Why not?Let us go from the realm of real numbers into the realm imaginary numbers even with interest rates :)
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christof Govaerts
On 17 Sep, 2012
@NuN
Indeed, why not go negative, if the Danes and the Swiss can, why not the rest of the world :-) Or why not introduce the Bavarian Chiemgauer as a currency
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiemgauer (1 chiem = 1 eur) But :
- It automatically loses 2% of value after each 3 months, so go out and spend that money as quickly as possible !!
- Register yourself as a non-profit organization : you are entitled to purchase 100 chiems @ 97 euro and may resell them at 100 eur, giving you 3 eur for "own" purposes; A non-profit as a bank, nice, no ?
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Nacht Und Nebel
On 17 Sep, 2012
Last Sunday I LMAO when watching the french edition of the Zever dag.
The minister of the dying lights in winter said:
There are thousands and thousands of people in this country using computers and automated programms making thousands of euros tax free profit a thousand times a day without having to work. That can't go any no longer said the political animal.
Who are these people, I wondered? Not I
Perhaps unemployed persons who have enough time?
Let's see how many unemployed people are getting rich while sleeping
Not that much when we first double the income of the Belgian stock exchange tax and see the revenue of that tax :). -
Nacht Und Nebel
On 17 Sep, 2012
And the the Union guy showed a detergent box with taxes on it.Trying to make the point that taxes are the best way the white wash holdings in a foreign country.Yep,he had a right to speak.His union had a large part of the 60 billion euros (at least) that unions are hiding somewhere in the Cayman Island.:)
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christof Govaerts
On 17 Sep, 2012
@NuN
I just replied in pedrocchis corner on your fretless guitar and your love declaration towards me. I love you too my dear !!-
Nacht Und Nebel
On 18 Sep, 2012
In a split second I felt in love with you....A good sense of humor .....Smart but not haughty...having an opinion but not opinionated......and I do love your little crack :)
http://youtu.be/Y5kMP-GljY4-
Theo
On 18 Sep, 2012
@ Christof & @NuN
Guys, get a (musical) studio or something already ! Seriously
And I'll get you the recipe for an Eton mess :-)
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Theo
On 17 Sep, 2012
I hear 100s of thousands didn't receive their pension last week... and it was blamed on Dexia being on an all-inclusive holiday... in Cyprus?
If the Spanish don't ask for Those Services For Favor very soon, we might have to call Those Bastards ourselves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9We2XsVZfc&feature=related
I don't mind if they do their dirty laundry with Dash as long as they don't take me to the dry cleaners... 'cause then I'm choosing Vanish-
Nacht Und Nebel
On 18 Sep, 2012
Theo,
Well after a short stay in Steven"s B&B (Bek houden & Betalen ) Pete,a member of the Carpenters will tell you that Vanish is the better product.We already harvested the Dexia weed without sowing from Stevens identical twin brother. Steven's cracked thin layer of polished crome revealed The Real Steven.Yet another Yves De Borghia,yet another Jean Luc the plumber,all brothers of harm.They really learned alot from Ancient Rome and have become masters in the art of crucifiction.All these double faced knights of the Pas Pour Le Merite with big fat false bottoms and their message of a heaven six feet under but only if we donate all of our worldly goods to them.
One can not but love these knights of the Pas Pour Le Merite and true french Lord Charles Le Tan.
Now your musical question.....
Which one is better?The second one.It is more fragile,more subtle,more detailed.From the first note.....I was there,Theo........Back home.....I could even see every detail of my homeland.....How I long for home faraway from Steven's B&B........Well,I can hear that recording only once a day.......Always moved to tears and very homesick......Yet,I cannot but listen to it once a day.Like a prisoner looking at his cracked photograph of his paradise lost.............
http://youtu.be/-RPbBQoalzA-
Theo
On 18 Sep, 2012
@ NuN
thanks Mr. Metroman :-) . I like that version as well. It's just so beautiful...
The Thracians believed that music could heal, dance was magical and poetry/song was a conversation with the universe . They elevated all three to an art form (Expressionism is not that modern after all ;-) )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD83L4kI3qY&feature=related
Philip Catherine has a guitar version of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dMLRTmyVeo
Don't expect me to be joining the ranks of the maenads of the be.gov thiasus :-)
I enjoy a "Burgundian" lifestyle anyway ;-)
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Kris Van der Plas
On 17 Sep, 2012
The political risk is indeed huge.
I've hinted to it here: http://www.econoshock.be/a-primer-on-ecb-september-6-high-time-for-a-comprehensive-approach and here: http://www.econoshock.be/ay-caramba-lost-in-translation
Next to the national (electoral) - european stress line, the Commission proposal to start with ECB oversight as of jan 2013 has opened another political battleline. And this one is huge. It basically has two fronts: The oversight would cover all banks in the EU meaning that say a Swedish bank will be overseen by a body in which they have no say (but others have); and secondly the oversight itself (ECB can never oversee 6000 banks, this is impossible). So are they serious about oversight or not? The solution of a crisis already contains the seeds of the next crisis. Well this rapid not-thought-through introduction of ECB oversight is not a seed for the next crisis it is a whole crop-duster airplane filled with seeds that will spray the whole EU. (Did I just agree with Merkel :-))-
christof Govaerts
On 17 Sep, 2012
@Kris
And yep we are completely in denial once again : market dumps Spanish paper big time today, again pushing above 6% (+25 bp) : no, we are not in trouble and we don't need help......-
Nacht Und Nebel
On 18 Sep, 2012
Christof,
This year at least 2.000.000 spanish under water houses for sale.Fech the Fed !:)
http://youtu.be/WENkquBHchM
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FV
On 17 Sep, 2012
Holy shit ! Is the ECB out of job ?!? That makes two of us then !
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FV
On 17 Sep, 2012
"out of A job", I meant. "Out of Job", that's another story ;-)
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Nacht Und Nebel
On 18 Sep, 2012
Target2: Aug Bundesbank claims rise to record €751bn vs Bank of Spain liabilities at record €429bn, Bank of Italy record liabilities €289bn :(
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Nacht Und Nebel
On 18 Sep, 2012
In June 2012 Target2 Germany +728 Italy -274,Spain -408,and Belgium with the Joker -31
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christof Govaerts
On 18 Sep, 2012
@NuN
And that underscores why Spain relatif to Italy is the biggest elephant in the room (Spanish GDP lower than Italian one)-
Theo
On 18 Sep, 2012
The Spanish have so many bricks in their tummy , when they go under water it all starts to weigh them down like cement and they end up sleeping with the fishes
Isn't that hoe the Italians take care of business? Concrete shoes...-
christof Govaerts
On 18 Sep, 2012
@Theo
Yep, I believe it's a tradition originating from out of Sicily and made popular in the US by the "wise guys"-
Theo
On 19 Sep, 2012
@ Christof
The one Spanish guy who knows how and when to do things
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-19/inditex-first-half-profit-beats-analyst-estimates-as-sales-climb.html-
Nacht Und Nebel
On 19 Sep, 2012
Not so diffucult to do once you know these guys received a massive EU order for it citizens.Every citizen in the EU will get it's own woolen jersey with the mandatory over your eyes puller.
Nevertheless I still like their asian invisible Female thong collection
Van alle leningen bij Spaanse banken was in 9,9 procent van de gevallen de kans op terugbetaling zeer gering, tegen 9,4 procent een maand eerder. Daarmee steeg de waarde van de slechte leningen tot 169,3 miljard euro.
So,if prior experiences with bad real estate and infrastructure loans are still valid one already know that the real cost will be about '500 billion euros.Who said that the spanish cavas only needed less then 100 billion?
We can only hope that this spanish animal doesn't get a belgian wagging tail :(
D-day or just another all inclusive Dexia-day on one of the many spanish wat gaat dat ons nu weer Costas.-
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Nacht Und Nebel
On 19 Sep, 2012
KU Leuven geeft IMF-directeur Christine Lagarde eredoctoraat.Dit eredoctoraat zal zondermeer zijn voor de 'Bernard'.Een tapie die 390 miljoen koste maar waar men werkelijk alles kan onder schuiven.
Niet alleen in Begie gebruikt de politieke top het belastingsgeld voor goede dingen zoals een Arco waarborg ook in Frankrijk worden goede doelen volop gefrancinend:)
' Uiteindelijk krijgt Bernard Tapie in juli 2008 een bedrag toegewezen van 390 miljoen euro, waarvan liefst 45 miljoen euro voor geleden morele schade. Na afbetaling van zijn belastingschuld en andere kosten, bleef er voor Tapie een nettobedrag over van 210 miljoen euro, dat door de Franse Staat, dus de Franse belastingbetaler, betaald mag worden. De toekenning van dat enorme bedrag leidde tot grote ophef in de Franse media en politiek. De belangen van Bernard Tapie, een kennis van Sarkozy, zouden teveel beschermd zijn en het belang van de staat veronachtzaamd. De arbitrage daarover stond onder leiding van Christine Lagarde, die handelde op instructies van Nicolas Sarkozy.'
45 miljoen euro morele schade voor den Bernard?Die sukkelaar moet afgezien hebben.Aan het bedrag te zien is 5 jaar Auschwitz-Birkenau een all inclusieve plezier reisje vergeleken met het leed dat Bernard moest ondergaan.-
Nacht Und Nebel
On 19 Sep, 2012
Wedden dat Christine Lagadere zal gedacht hebben,gedeeld leed is halve smart :)Christine de smartachtige samaritaan....Ze verdient geen eredoctoraat maar een standbeeld.Geintresseerde artiesten kunnen nu reeds hun offerte bij Steven langs brengen.
Over de kost valt te praten :)
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Nacht Und Nebel
On 19 Sep, 2012
Even in Japan the BoJ must to buy Japanese negative rate frisco bunds.The global governmental tactics have changed.If you do not want to buy our negative rate frisco bunds we will buy them for you but you will still pay .If needed we will tax you to dead;
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Nacht Und Nebel
On 20 Sep, 2012
De perverse neveneffecten van de gratis geldpolitiek laten zich nu reeds voelen.Alle bedrijven met een goed business model worden met gratis geld opgekocht.De overnemer weet dat het dividend dat deze bedrijven generen ruimschoots volstaat om het geleend kapitaal op korte termijn terug te storten.
De sales and lease back politiek zal op middellange termijn Europa veranderen in huurders van hun eigen woning.Intriest.Iris,Telenet,wie volgt? -
BinaNeepcap
On 20 Mar, 2013
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